shannan watts autopsy
Before I became a police officer- I was an EMT and I worked for 8 months for a company that transports dead bodies from where they die to funeral homes or the medical examiner. I know, Im a survivor of strangulation. Her fully formed gallstone may have contributed to her not feeling well during her last MLM trip. Maybe some ppl just can only take so much. How did Shanann Watts die? She was not drinking while pregnant! In the 2000 page report that was released they pose the theory that she may have been asleep while attacked. My husband is 62, weighs 190 lb. I slept in my bras with all four of my pregnancies. He was presented with evidence before the plea deal, and we dont know the content of those conversations. I worry he may have had the girls dead and sprawled out waiting for her to come home and watched her reaction from the baby monitor. Told everyone I was bipolar, that we were divorced, even took me to one of his counseling sessions to prove I was the one with the problem. The autopsy report said that Shanann had a "history of being reported. So I do see how Chris did this and ended up with no defensive injuries from her. CW was already working out his plan to annihilate his family around the time he was getting ready to make his daughters some dinner. And fyi, I am not going to use the actual pictures/videos in my project. Do you think Shanann was the type of person to leave her suitcase downstairs and just go to bed? He knew that he would be at those oil tanks by himself that morning. Carol, I think you are absolutely spot on, and on all points too. I did. So wheres the problem here? But I want to know so badly the time of death. I just dont understand this. If thats the case I cant figure where else they would have been at that time. It was already reported that Shannan evacuated her bowels when dying and that is why he took the sheet off, He told police that. She wouldnt have gone to bed without her phone. He is a monster. When you are larger or they are tender, especially when pregnant, it is easier to sleep in them. Air chokes have been associated with fractures of the larynx or hyoid bone and are considered less safe than blood chokes in these applications. Asshole should have never been presented and damn plea deal. Supposedly he took them out of school and said they wouldnt be coming back. Shanann's autopsyconcluded that her cause of death was asphyxiation due to manual strangulation. She loved her kids more than he did, obviously!! But think about it. Celeste was found face down in that oil tank. Maybe im not reading this correctly or i missed it but what proof does this autopsy shows that chris beyond a reasonable doubt killed his kids? Do you think she was murdered elsewhere? None of that is going to me made public, for obvious reasons. Shanann had only (ap autopsy) "probable bruising on the anterior subcutaneous neck tissue" sweetbreez 4 yr. ago Like the previous commenter said, LE explained that it had to do with her being buried in the sand vs the oil. That discussion included stating she couldnt afford to live in Colorado as a single mom, AND she would have to immediately pull the girls out of school to save money. But yeah I really think he was being nicer to her to assure she had her guard down when he murdered her; which was when she was sleeping, on the sofa upstairs on her phone or laptop, or god forbid he initiated some kind of intimacy that turned into her death. He was an operator for Anadarko. Chris and or others..I tend to agreeShan ann was imodefinitely disabled at some pointBella maybe not..she fought hard. And that she looked at him as she died. Bella was face up, so oil had oozed into her stomach and lungs. I do believe that she may have been the one who smothered the children because she was so controlling, according to friends and family, that she didnt want another woman around her kids. The phone was found in the cushions of that upstairs couch, not the downstairs couch. Watts claimed that he snapped and strangled his wife when he found her murdering the girls, but he later pleaded guilty to all three murders. Meaning there should be no oil in her stomach just like cece. It may interest people to see how MLM companies such as Thrive, train their customers and promoters in Time and Management and Organisational skills, both of which can be classified as OCD behaviours to an untrained eye. Gallstones form over a period of time, raised hormone levels in pregnancy contribute to them. Thats all information in police interviews with Shananns friends. He has to be asked if he EVER went to look at Bella and see what condition she was in. Do you think he ninja-attacked her the moment she entered the house? Bella Watts Autospy Report If she was that tired, yes, Shannan could have left her suitcase and purse downstairs in her own home. In the new clip, the cold-hearted killer is wearing t-shirt, shorts and flip flops as officers secure. I was 59 weighed 120 lbs, so was skinny. FACT: Not everyone poops when they die, in fact most do not. Part of the evidence that he put into the trash. He also is the male submissive in F/m relationships. I feel like maybe she did meet them. But considering she seemed to be an amazing mother, I highly doubt she was drinking. Thats the update; at the beginning of the article, theres a link to the first contact between her and the financial counselor. Meredith Kercher is a famous example. The manner of death is homicide, the autopsy for Bella said. He had a schedule and he was sticking to it. She seemed to be in pajamas which indicates she got into bed, which sickly matches up with his barely got into bed remark, The sheets were stripped because they probably got pulled off anyway during the act. I wrote a book that tried to integrate information, not just throw the information in the air and shrug. She said he was telling people he has to go to work and that just doesnt seem right. Remember, she was pregnant. stop, stop. . It was all a complete lie. I go back & forth wondering if he planned on killing the kids, or if Bella saw & then he had too. The paper bags are put on the hands to transport the victim after they are found deceased as to not contaminate any potential evidence around the hands, such as DNA evidence under the fingernails. Like a scene from Friday the 13th. On Aug. 13, 2018, Chris strangled Shanann, 34, in their Colorado home. 2 hours isnt going to bed or going to sleep. The two girls, Bella and Celestes bodies also had same, was noted in autopsy reports is from decomp process. But thats me. And the fact that theyd had a bankruptcy in 2015 apparently hadnt helped her wise up at all. He tells his vindictive wife that he wants out. No other way to put it. @Carol: OCD appears at least 5 times in the Discovery Documents. He had strangled me while I was pinned down to the floor, face up. In the interrogation CW was blaming Shannan for killing the girls, and in the next breath trying to protect NK. Maybe body positioning and gravity? I once witnessed where someone used Tequila in a hookah instead of water. Thankyou Nick for all your studies, research and insights. Advertisement. Shan'ann Watts tells her husband: "I don't want a video of you" while recording her children Chris Watts Case: What would Sherlock Holmes Do? So weird. Jami I have 1 question for you. Straight up facts. He asked to speak to his father before confessing. he said he had to raise the girls arms up to get them into the hatches of the oil tank. Its hard to fight a larger man off of you when held down, in fear of dying and trying to gasp for air. Also I agree much is still withhhed from the public. Strangleholds require little physical strength. After that, then everything started going bad and stressing him out. Much more interest in the case in his home state; in Wisconsin, hes just a number. Unless you count her phone. Shan'ann Watts -Autopsy,grave details.Graphic! I love the way people just make things up and state it as fact, even when it completely opposes evidence in the case. His mom I think knew about it prior. Just like those rare occasions where you laughed so hard you peed in your pants, you will pee and poop in the spontaneous relaxation of your muscles following death. Chris came home and gave consent to search and said that he found Shananns wedding ring on the night stand. Once the body dies the lower digestive tract opens up. Watts pleaded guilty to murdering Shanann, Celeste and Bella to avoid the death penalty. x, Ive said this before. She strangled them.. Gastrointestinal Tract: Shanann is very OCD about organization and planned the entire wedding. It could be all the thrive he was taking. The breast get sore , and large during pregnancy, and for me at least, it was more comfortable to have them supported and padded. I was near death before my ex took his hands off my neck. On page one of the report in the list of Diagnoses, it states:- The Watts family killings and the financial devastation, infidelity, and what appears on the videos as a mindless neglect of the children overlay all these sad accounts. Youre not Shanann Watts. Bella and Celeste were thrown away, the prosecutor said adding that investigators found scratch marks on one of the girls bodies and tufts of hair on the opening to one of the oil tanks, the television station reported. She didnt try to bite him? On the police cams you can just see hi. Shanann was found in a shallow grave at an oil site near the drums. Was Shanann ever clinically diagnosed with OCD by a physician or a psychiatrist? ShanAnn was, to put it simply, addicted to her MLM lifestyle and that was the most important thing in her life. They say: Chris told his father, She hurt them. OCD can be like gluten-sensitivities. I have come to think of her OCD tendencies as a bit like the way she was around her kids. Poor Bella was smothered with extreme force to her face that it left bruising. Of course he kept saying hed never hurt those kids, he was lying, trying to save his ass. I know plenty of women who wear their bras to sleep, myself included. ( oh & yes there were handprints in both sides of her neck according to autopsy ) on his arms? The next morning, visible fingerprints (the circular marks on Shaanns autopsy), so visible that others took notice. She had a separate closest for her shoes & purses. Then he felt he had to kill CeCe too. It seems as if the account Chris gave once he was finally in jail and writing letters was the truth. He found her phone between the cushions. They are finger prints from his hands. Celestes stomach was empty. give me a break. Shanann Watts Cause of Death: How Did the Colorado Mother Die? Lastly and not related to your book, I continuously read people stating that the only bruises on Shananns body were the on the right side of her neck. The coroner even said the way she was strangled is indicative of a person not putting up a fight. A monster! These people cant tell the truth about anything. Please have respect for people who suffer with the condition, and research it before you comment about it. Im thinking the girls were killed after Shanann because he knew she would look in on them, perhaps kiss them, before turning to bed herself. The Weld County Coroner released the complete autopsy reports of Bella, Celeste, and Shanann Watts, who were murdered by Chris Watts on August 13. Do you think that maybe she was actually just unconscious? He wanted out, didnt want the baby., and took the cowards way. When people die, sudden or expected, contents of their bowels and bladder are expelled. But there were some issues. This autopsy is performed at the request of the Weld County Coroner, State of Colorado. I have NO doubt that CW did a choke-hold on his wife from behind or right side, rendering her unconscious while smothering her airwayshe never woke upis why she didnt struggle or stop him. Thats why the strangulation was gentle, not violent, as the hyoid was not broke, and there were no defensive wounds to her or him. You know theres plenty of that right? Make sense? I took a lot of interest in the K9 footage as I had a SAR Shore Rescue dog for 13 years (best nose in Cornwall). As CrimeOnline previously reported, Chris Watts tried to pin the murders of 3-year-old Celeste and 4-year-old Bella on his wife when he first confessed to murdering Shanann, who was 15 weeks pregnant at the time. They dissipate in inconvenient circumstances. In the case of Lacey Peterson, fecal matter *was* found in the house. @Nickvdl IMO I think he strangled her from behind and on their bed. Parents reach for any hope, even if the child is blue, even if rigor has set in, theyre desperate and people who are not emotionally involved as them, professionals,have to tell them its too late. ShanAnn used everyone in service to her addiction, without really appearing concerned for how it was affecting them. Wow, you are really reaching here. October 3, 2018 / 12:35 PM / CBS Colorado. Jami, doesnt make sense. He said in his admissions that she deficated during the murder in thier bed, where he wrapped her in a sheet and moved her to the floor immediately- where he was interrupted by the girls waking up (after his first attempt to kill them by suffocating them in thier sleep)- the girls were killed in his truck CeCe was wearing a diaper, so even if she had deficated or urinated it would be unclear after days in the crude oil.. And Bella was likely not dead but simply unconscious again when he dumped her body- therefore, even if she did relax enough to evacuate her bowels and bladder- it wasnt until she was in the crude oil tank. Because he said hed never hurt his girls? D Oil, water and sludge debris in the stomach Also this is awful but he said he had to raise the girls arms up to get them into the hatches of the oil tank. Bella was wearing pink pajama-type top with images of hearts and butterflies. Poor thing. Under anaerobic conditions (absence of free oxygen) acids such as lactic acid, acetic acid and butyric acid are produced during decomposition, as well as a number of alcohols which include butyl alcohol, ethyl alcohol and acetone. She was organized but that is not OCD, same as me. They found nothing of any importance under her fingernail scrapings. It takes 4 5 hours for a stomach to empty after eating. Required fields are marked *. Seriously? She was calling him honey, and being all lovey dovey in her messages to him all weekend. I find it more comfortable & Ive always been afraid of sagging. He continuously maintained throughout the entire interrogation that he would never hurt those kids. I cannot get over what he did. I am of the opinion that: Bella was unconscious but still breathing when she was forced brutally into the oil tank, and her injuries were sustained during this push. Chris thought that she was dead? They didnt do date nights. The carpet was cleaned, and laundry done in the Peterson case. Something that might help with perspective is this financial article in which a wife writes in for advice, because her husband has started sending hundreds of thousands of dollars to a cult: https://www.marketwatch.com/story/this-woman-made-a-life-changing-decision-after-her-husband-gave-600000-to-a-cult-2017-07-10 . I wondered if there was a fight, Bella saw him strangle her mother and ran into the basement to hide from him. My question is how do you smother someone with your bare handscover/press their nostrils and mouths? Would love your thoughts, please comment. For nothing. That could explain what possibly happened to Bella if she woke up and was going to see what was going on. I was VERY proud of my being able to take down the biggest man in my class. She asked him to keep the receipt for taxes. Not the best proof, but it adds to the chance there was planning. He pushes her off CeCe and strangles her with both hands ( he demonstrates ) I just dont get it. Chris was ocd also. Cuz if shed already died she would have not been engaged in the act of strangling her like he said. Theres another case that does involve a murder by a husband on a bed, through manual strangulation, and they found small drops of his and her blood on the sheets, as well as traces of her feces elsewhere in the room. I am not saying he touched the purse. I am shocked shes not been charged too. Completely empty stomach contents doesnt necessarily indicate they died when Shanann died. It DOES NOT make her a bad mother when I comment on what I saw and what I think. Hed let her snuggle him that morning. I think thats what she did (shed had an extra 3 hours of airport to be rid of!) Netflix viewers believe a murdered wife sent police a clue from beyond the grave after spotting something "creepy" in the doco about her brutal murder at the hands of her cheating husband. I think he was doing this so she would feel comfortable when she got home, and would be able to sleep. Theres really not much to say about this, right? @Karen did she get dressed for bed, or did she simply take of her jeans, throw off her flip-flops and decide to settle down for a couple of hours sleep wearing the bra, panties and t-shirt that she arrived home in? What about rigormortis?. Knowing that his neighbor had a camera, he has a reason to leave at that time. God I wish she had taken the girls and just got the heck out of there. But its tough watching some of them, and at times I felt awful for all of themand the girls clearly did not want to be on camera while Shannan clearly wanted them TO be on camera. This whole thing is terrible. Or look up the video of the DA talking about the autopsies. I actually have been turned upside down by this murder, and through watching over 42 hours of video, have grown to love and admire Shannan! And the life insurance policies out on the 3 girls, not sure Nico yet, was not very much at all. She had everything she needed on the ground floor kitchen for food and drink, office to make haircare purchases, bathroom and toilet and a big sofa with a huge blanket left on it as shown in the initial welfare check police body-cam footage. Shanann returned home from a business trip on the early morning hours of August 13, 2019. Ive never personally had a child repeatedly behave as the girls did, and pleasea disclaimer here. She hurt my kids., Chris said, Theyre in a freakin oil tank. Good to have a former forensic detective around. I have read through this entire post and this is the one question that I dont think is getting enough attention. Chris probably told shannan that shed never see the kids again.. He said it was emotional but a civil conversation and they were not arguing. It is most likely that the girls were dead by 6 PM Sunday night already, which was why Chris couldnt reschedule the murders as soon as he heard ShanAnns flight would be delayed, thereby cutting dangerously into his cleanup time. However, this method is especially brutal, sadistic, and intimate, as he he would see their dying eyes. The girls were just in their pajamas; they werent wrapped in blankets. There are FBI profilers who are trained at reading people by what they dont say & in Chriss case sometimes he says too much. in any case, who the hell trusts anything coming from Chris Watts? In fact, I wonder if LeVel pulled some strings in Chris plea bargain it would certainly be better for the MLM to not have details about its pernicious effect on this familys finances coming out in a court trial. He in cold-heart and with much caluculation waited for her to return Shanann did not stand a chance! Otherwise I cant imagine why she didnt go for his eyes etc. Prior to taking the test he was asked a bunch of questions one of them was name some ways you could make somebody disappear. That does not necessarily equate to being a psychiatric disorder, just personal empowerment. Chris Watts was convicted of murdering his pregnant wife Shanann, their unborn child, and their two children, Celeste and Bella, ages 4 and 3. "Chris Watts Just Snapped" "Why wasn't Shan'ann's body dumped into the oil tanks as well?" #Shakedown's Call on the Chris Watts Case: The Bodies were "Processed" I had assumed all the way through that he had used a pillow. Think before you speak, Im glad he will never be out of his jail cell. Does this mean Bella was still alive when she was dropped into the tank? The autopsy is commenced at 1030 hours, on August 17, 2018 on the body of Shanann Watts at the McKee Medical Center, Loveland, CO. B . The second dog was simply a tracker dog, not trained for cadavers but to track a missing person. Do you think CW could have strangled her from behind? Its completely obvious from videos that the wife was a nut job, self absorbed, controlling weirdo that undermined her husband constantly..so leave her ass!! I have high praise for you, you are excellent at what you do. Have you interviewed anyone for your books? Ive linked an article below for everyone to read about how harmful perpetuating this lie is. Rude person. (883931) Full autopsy reports of all 3. A persons muscles relax upon death, including the sphincter. But from Molletts work, it seems the alcohol levels in Shananns body were normal. And did you mention that the 6 weeks Shannan was in NC with her girls that your Hero Chris Watts was enjoying 6 weeks of being single with his girlfriend, and that was the turning point in their marriage? The autopsy report said that Shanann had a "history of being reported missing and subsequently found unresponsive in obvious state of death in a shallow grave." The cause of death was. He was holding me down by sitting on me, one leg on each side of my stomache. No traces of fecal material found, but in the Rohde case there were fecal traces. Smothering is albeit horrific, a more a gentle or approach that a mother may take. It drives me batty to see little Cece kick her legs in joy in the videos and to know they were stopped forever. I will say one thing CW did NOT doat least he didnt rape his baby girlsha, like that makes him a good man, Yo i bet that thrive shit gave her that gallstone. He was asleep. Could Bellas mouth injuries have occurred postmortem when he shoved her through the hatch? People with OCD have rituals. And of course she loved her children, and she was a great mom. Heartbreaking evidence photos and video of stained shirt, underwear and bra Shanann Watts was wearing when her husband murdered her, wrapped her in a sheet and put her in shallow grave The. 2. Please God Forgive me for everything.. Your thoughts? He could have planned to go to work early that morning so as to avoid talking to Shanann. She wanted to be, and really thought she was, a great mom. Thats why no defense wounds. Same with NK. It was a matter of how they were immersed in the oil. Just kind of odd. Chris Watts isnt my hero. In the video of Chris Wattss confession, previously published on CrimeOnline, investigators appear incredulous that he was able to fit the bodies into the tanks, but Watts claimed he was able to do so without difficulty. So Shananns OCD personality stopped that night? My son has many medical issues as well, doesnt make me a hypochondriac ffs she isnt here to defend herself maybe back off a bit. The male agent says did Shannan do one child & you the other? 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